Well, well.
Who could have known that deceased Boston Marathon bomber, Tamerlan Tsarnaev had the same reading interests as, say, you average NRA member?
The 26-year-old, who was killed in a shootout with police after bombs killed three people during the Boston Marathon in April, read up on a number of conspiracy theories and “the rape of our gun rights.”The BBC’s Panorama TV program reported that the material accused the US government of orchestrating the 9/11 attacks and the Oklahoma bombing in 1995. Tamerlan also had literature that explored the psychology behind mass killings and how the perpetrators “murdered and maimed calmly.”
Sounds just like NRA Member Emeritus, Timmy McVeigh.
Jade,
ReplyDeleteYour posting is kind of humorous considering that not long ago, MAIG had listed his brother as a victim of gun violence. I've accepted that the MAIG just made their mistake as an oversight in scrubbing their list. Your posting however is just business as usual in that you just make stuff up.
The Tsarnaev brothers were radical Islamic terrorists who used an al queda magazine article on building bombs to commit their crimes. (read the article) The media reported on the arsenal they owned and then somehow the arsenal started getting smaller, and haven't really heard what it ended up as.
"Even though the Tsarnaev brothers made a violent dash from police, allegedly tossing homemade bombs as they fled, police told ABC News they so far have recovered only a single, semi-automatic handgun from the two men now accused of carrying off the Boston Marathon bombing."
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/single-gun-recovered-accused-boston-bombers/story?id=19028841
What? Are you actually offering that NRA members cannot be victims of gun violence?
DeleteI'd say the eidence is pretty overwhelming they are.
I call BS. MAG wouldn't honor an NRA hero on their bus tour. No way.
ReplyDeleteJadegold, do you ever bother to look for evidence to support your nonsense?
ReplyDeletewww.theatlanticwire.com/politics/2013/06/mayors-against-illegal-guns-tamerlan-tsarnaev-slate/66413/
ReplyDeleteThat list is part of a Slate article titled, "How Many People Have Been Killed by Guns Since Newtown?" The name Tamerlan Tsarnaev is included in the list, killed on April 19 in Watertown, Massachusetts. That Slate list, it should be noted, points to the Twitter account @GunDeaths as the source of its data. The Twitter account has only been updated once since March, indicating that Slate was taking over the account. A downloadable list at the Twitter account includes Tsarnaev's name.
Dan Kois, an editor at Slate, explained to The Atlantic Wire why Tsarnaev was on their list — an intentional inclusion.
The interactive is a tally of all the people who've been killed by guns since the Newtown shootings. So it doesn't differentiate between good guys and bad guys. We were studiously attempting to be as clear as possible that this was not victims of gun crimes … it was everybody that's been killed by guns since Newtown.
Tsarnaev was "by no means" the only person on the list shot by law enforcement during the commission of a crime, Kois said. He wasn't able to say how many of those listed fell into that category but noted that the complete list could be downloaded "if anyone wants to break it down."
Uh huh. That's exactly what the "gun death" stat measures, and this is the principle metric that the gun control side uses.
DeleteThe only point of such a list is if you're taking the position that guns are evil, period, in which case, consistency would demand fighting for the government to disarm as well.
DeleteAll right let's be fair about it. You guys have Tamerlan Tsarnaev and Timmy McVeigh on your side, but we have Kevin (anonymous) on ours.
ReplyDeleteNo, Mikeb, criminals and terrorists are not on my side. My side advocates for gun rights for good citizens.
DeleteAnd yet, We're not demanding that you apologize for what he says or be held accountable for it. We're not using him and his vileness as an excuse for a blanket taking away of rights from you and your side.
DeleteAlso, note that he's on your side And he's a dick, but the two are not linked in some way that would let us claim that he was a dick only because he was on your side, and that you're all dicks just like him.
Similarly, just because McVeigh and Tsarnaev had pro gun literature doesn't mean that this is why they were terrorists or that others who are pro-gun will be terrorists.
Tsarnaev was motivated by Jihadist thinking and was grabbing for any other excuses to justify his actions--he had no interest in preserving rights under the Constitution, just in stoking his anger. McVeigh was a Turner Diary emulating white supremacist. Did he oppose gun laws? Sure, but it was again as a means to an end--he wanted to provoke a fight with the government so that people like him could use guns to racially "cleanse" the country--in other words, he also supported gun rights only as a means to violate many other rights of others. These people really don't have anything in common with us "gun rights and other rights fanatics."
That's bullshit, Greg. You oppose universal background checks because some of your criminal friends might be inconvenienced. It's disgraceful.
DeleteStop lying about me, Mikeb.
DeleteI can safely say that Greg, I, and the other commenters here have never given that as a reason we oppose the checks. We have all given you different reasons, and you have failed to convince us that such checks would fix the situation.
DeleteYour intransigence on the question of background checks and the resultant disgraceful situation in which ANYBODY can buy a gun speaks for itself. You must take responsibility for what you insist is right.
DeleteMikeb, you believe in the magic of background checks. I take a reasonable position on the topic.
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