Pew Research
While gun owners, unlike the public at large, oppose gun control measures such as banning assault-style weapons, a big majority of gun owners (85%) support making private gun sales and sales at gun shows subject to background checks. That matches the level of support among the general public for doing this.
It amazes me how those who support gun rights so often find it necessary to exaggerate or lie. If they had any kind of a decent argument they wouldn't have to do that.
What's your opinion? Please leave a comment.
Why can't you get it through your head that a poll doesn't have the same status as a statement of fact? The accuracy of polls depend on the nature of the questions. If the poll in question didn't name all the violations that these gun bills had hidden within them, then the poll was biased.
ReplyDeleteThat's the point. Polls are not simply the truth. Their conclusions are interpretations. Disagreeing with interpretations is not lying. For example, Juan Williams said that a background check is not an infringement on anyone's right. I disagree with him, but I don't call him a liar for saying so.
Mikeb, you'd gain a lot of credibility just by refraining from tossing around accusations of lying so casually.
How would you characterize Bret's statement that most gun owners are not for background checks? Even if you believe the 90% reports are exaggerated, the polls have all been in agreement. In order to back up his remark he read an official release from the NRA, which has exactly fuck-all to do with anything.
DeleteThe NRA did a survey of its own members recently and found basically the opposite of the claims that we hear from your side. Now you can reject that result, and you can try to ignore how senators listened to the messages from their constituents on the gun control vote, but the truth is clear: We don't want gun control.
DeleteI note that you failed to get the point of my comment. My point is that polls are unreliable unless done over time, and even then, the way the questions are asked affects the result. I've looked at some of those polls. The questions never mention all the bad aspects of the bill that we've discussed with you repeatedly. You probably can get a bunch of people to say that they support background checks if that's all you ask about. But if you ask whether people support making a gay couple felons if one of them goes on a trip and leaves his gun at home, the support will be much less. If you ask whether people support making it a felony to let a friend try out a gun at a private range, you'll see the same drop.
The polls here show what Mark Twain said about categories of lies.
Of course they have to lie; to tell the truth would sink their ideology of acceptable death.
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